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  An old Kingdom hall now a church?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
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  have any of you heard of anything like this.

  i remember an ex jw from ohio taking video of a former kingdom hall that is now a church.

  apparently the society sold it to the church.

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  stan livedeath

  jehovah has left the building
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  Do Jehovah's Witnesses view the governing body differently since seeing them on the TV?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think this may be a bigger issue for the society than we realise.. when you consider that witnesses have now had well over a year of regularly seeing their 'channel to god' with their own eyes, what do you think they're thinking?.

  i'm going to put this as respectfully as i can; these men are clearly a bunch of utter clowns who are laughably inadequate to present a tv show, but also, they are now ridiculously discredited due to the absolute shite that they've spoken in these laughable productions.. consider things from a jw's perspective; tony morris, stephen lett & geoffrey jackson are 'the channel' that makes their religion 'special'.

  these men are the channel god is using to lead his people in the modern day.

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  of course they are ! most older life long dubs are just as deranged as those clowns are.

  i remember back in the '70s---my bat sh*t crazy born in mother in law bought an audio cassette of the bethel choir singing. she loved it. what a dirge! certainly no mormon tabernacle choir.
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  Is disassociating worth the hassle?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been out now for 6 years but lately i have been giving some thought to da.

  i just kind of feel that chapter in my life is still open and for some reason i feel like da'ing might close that chapter but i'm not entirely sure.

  im not df either, when i left i basically faded and disappeared.

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  hereigo--you are de facto diassociated already.

  i would have thought any letter saying a person has disassociated themselves is only worth while if they were associating untill recently. 6 years aint recent !.
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  Selloff Hinted At Assembly

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last talk at the assembly made an interesting statement, "we can show faith by following direction if we're asked to move to another kingdom hall for better use of dedicated christian funds".

  this statement has everyone talking.

  i spoke to multiple individuals and they heard the same thing at different assembly's.. i know they have been "evaluating" all kingdom halls the last year or two.

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  if the cult is short of money--why cant they trust in jehovah to provide what they need ?
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  Major congregational quake in Southern California

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

  a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

  the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

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  2 congregations get merged. the spare hall is sold off--and the money goes to the watchtower.

  the dubs now sharing the hall soon realise they want their own again. so they start saving towards the building costs. but when the savings exceed $5000...the money has to be handed over to the watchtower as well. cunning plan.
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  I found a list my Wife is makingof subjects i have told her about the BORG.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so me and my wife have not been on speaking terms for about 5 weeks, and when we do .

  talk…it is arguing about the jw cult and more of a barrage from me telling here all the stuff i have learned.

  i know i shouldn't do this....but, i get so freaking p.o ed aobut what this cult has done to my family.

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  if your wife is about to stab you in the back--you better destroy your no blood card or the wound could prove fatal.
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  Love for the Hate

  by IronSharpensIron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to share a perspective related to my experience with leaving the jw.

  at this point, i have been df'd since i was 18. i'm 25, happily married with 2 fantastic children.

  after being miserably at odds with my parents and extended family, i've come to some realizations as follows.. i struggled with the conditional nature of my parent's love- talking to me until it bothered their conscience, then cutting me off.

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  helo ISI--welcome to this site.

  ive been shunned by 2 of my born-in kids for more than 30 years now.
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  Which Kingdom Hall Should They Sell? How Does The Governing Body Decide?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well what rule of thumb do you think these financial dim-wits dream up?

  i think those not sending in their money to the org are some of the first properties to unload while you spare the higher payers for last.

  you don't want to piss off the loyal contributers by making them miss meetings,, that's a no win situation so dump the free loaders as a negative asset and keep the more profitable ones.. and those who's loans the wt forgave, watch what happens if you're not send in those regular payments like before, and slack off by a significant amount.

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  these financial dim-wits dream up

  
  

  cant agree with that statement, --i think its all clever financial shafting.
  
  
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  Crisis of Conscience Raymond Franz

  by Disassociated Lady 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this book has been recommended to me a few times.

  is it worth reading?.

  how could i get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on amazon and ebay?

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  stan livedeath

  i think anyone buying vastly overpriced books off the internet are just feeding the greedy.

  its not as if the money is going to the author--in this case !.

  i bought a copy about 6 years ago--when i first got involved with this whole new world ( to me ) of ex-jw'ism. i had quit 40 + years ago. to be honest--i had to start reading about half way through. the first part seemed to contain a lot of extracts of watchtower paragraphs--and my eyes just glaze over at that. but when i got into it i had to finish it all.

  after i had read it--i offered it to a distant relative who had also left the cult--but she--and her husband--also an ex-----declined to accept it. they didnt want any reminders of a life they had walked away from. ( i would imagine a lot of ex's are like that )

  however i did pass it on to another member of this site who was having difficulty buying a copy.
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  Been witnessing today - first time in over 2 years!!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  and it felt wonderful!!.

  i went into the city to where i knew there was a "cosmopolitan witnessing" trolley, because i wanted to ask a simple bible-based question.

  the trolley was attended by an elder and a sister who was another elder's wife.

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  stan livedeath

  the cart witnessing work is a waste of time.

  so is trying to reason with them.

  unless you asked them what single thing would destroy their faith.